Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/09/2000 01:20 PM House JUD

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HB 288-CHILDREN WITNESSING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KOTT announced that the next order of business would be                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 288, "An Act relating to the creation of an                                                                      
aggravating factor for the commission of domestic violence in the                                                               
physical presence of a child."  As sponsor of HB 288, he called                                                                 
upon Denise Henderson to present the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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DENISE HENDERSON, Staff to Representative Pete Kott, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, informed the committee that HB 288 would add a new                                                                 
section to AS 12.55.155(c)(18).  Currently, the commission of                                                                   
domestic violence in the presence of a child is not included as a                                                               
determining factor in the sentencing of a perpetrator.  This                                                                    
legislation expands the list of aggravating circumstances to                                                                    
include the special vulnerability of the children, which would                                                                  
become a major factor in determining severity of the crime of                                                                   
domestic violence and the resulting sentence.  The bill would allow                                                             
the courts to consider these factors to aggravate the severity of                                                               
domestic violence when committed in the presence of a child.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HENDERSON reported that she has seen the emotional and                                                                      
psychological damage that violence in the home has on children.                                                                 
She believes this legislation is imperative, as it would provide                                                                
the court system with a new tool to further the fight against                                                                   
domestic violence.  In working in the juvenile division of the                                                                  
Albuquerque District Attorney's office, she noted, there was always                                                             
one underlying factor of the children in the system:  domestic                                                                  
violence.  She informed the committee that since moving to                                                                      
Anchorage, she has worked at Abused Women's Aid in Crisis, where                                                                
once again she observed the damage that domestic violence can cause                                                             
to children.  Currently a court-appointed advocate with the Office                                                              
of Public Advocacy in Anchorage, Ms. Henderson said this                                                                        
legislation would not only bring awareness to the trauma that                                                                   
children bear in witnessing domestic violence in the home, but it                                                               
would also be instrumental in breaking this ongoing cycle.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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DAVID HUDSON, Lieutenant, Division of Alaska State Troopers,                                                                    
Department of Public Safety (DPS), testified via teleconference                                                                 
from Fairbanks.  He informed the committee that law enforcement                                                                 
across the state and the DPS support this creation of an                                                                        
aggravating factor involved with domestic violence in the presence                                                              
of a child for a felony crime.  He expressed support of anything                                                                
the legislature passes to keep offenders off the streets a little                                                               
longer and not share the abuse with families and children.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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DR. ARTHUR HANSEN, Dentist, testifying via teleconference from                                                                  
Fairbanks, said he was in favor of HB 288.  One of the instigators                                                              
of this, he is the Chairman of the PANDA (Prevent Abuse and Neglect                                                             
through Dental Awareness) Coalition for the Dental Society.  Dr.                                                                
Hansen indicated domestic violence will be carried out on a                                                                     
generational basis because children learn that violence is the way                                                              
to solve problems.  If children learn this at an early age, it will                                                             
remain a part of them and they will repeat it.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. HANSEN also expressed support for the proposed change to the                                                                
bill that he understands to exist, which is insertion of the                                                                    
language "or within  hearing of the child.".  He indicated all                                                                  
literature points out domestic violence as the starting point of                                                                
crime for children.  He referred to Bruce Perry (ph) [at Baylor                                                                 
University], who he said has shown that factors that take place                                                                 
from 33 [weeks] of gestation through a child's first three years                                                                
relate to some people becoming violent.  Dr. Hansen commented that                                                              
when he sees two adults in a domestic violence situation, he                                                                    
wonders how they arrived at that point and if they maybe do the                                                                 
same thing that their parents did; he acknowledged that this                                                                    
connection is not necessarily true, although all developmental                                                                  
psychology points to it.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. HANSEN explained why dentists are involved in this matter.  He                                                              
told members that dentists have a code of ethics through the                                                                    
American Dental Association (ADA), which obligates them to report                                                               
all child abuse and neglect.  This past October, ADA passed another                                                             
resolution mandating that dentists receive education on the subject                                                             
of child abuse and neglect; Dr. Hansen informed the committee that                                                              
he chairs the program that does that.  He said the Dental Society                                                               
is involved because dentists see these patients.  Dr. Hansen urged                                                              
the committee to pass this legislation.  He mentioned the need to                                                               
think about parent training, parent education and anger management                                                              
training that could be required along with the judge's sentencing.                                                              
Furthermore, there should be consideration with regard to where the                                                             
aforementioned training would come from.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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PATTY KALLANDER, Member on the Board of Directors and Volunteer,                                                                
Cordova Family Research Center (CFRC), testified via teleconference                                                             
from Cordova, indicating she is a trained legal advocate for                                                                    
victims of domestic violence and an adult survivor.  She pointed                                                                
out that statistics show that growing up in a household with                                                                    
domestic violence leads to depression, alcoholism, drug abuse,                                                                  
anger control problems and a high incidence of suicide.  She stated                                                             
that the proposed amendment is an important one to add to HB 288.                                                               
She requested clarification about the term "physical presence,"                                                                 
however, and wondered if that included being in another room from                                                               
where the domestic violence was taking place.  She explained that                                                               
she was diagnosed with post traumatic stress syndrome years ago, as                                                             
were all of her siblings; they have all dealt with depression,                                                                  
alcoholism and drug abuse.  Therefore, she informed the committee,                                                              
she is in favor of HB 288.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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MS. HENDERSON noted that there is a proposed amendment to HB 288.                                                               
She explained that after the bill was written, it was taken into                                                                
consideration that children in another room from where domestic                                                                 
violence is taking place are affected.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KOTT stated that he believes it is just as important if                                                                
children are in another room, because it probably has just as much                                                              
affect on them as if they were in the same room.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE CROFT made a motion to adopt the proposed amendment,                                                             
which read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The purpose of this amendment is to add to the                                                                             
     aggravating factor in the hearing of a child.  The new                                                                     
     aggravating factor would now be "in the presence of or                                                                     
     within hearing of a child"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Specific changes are:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Amend the title.  Page 1, line 2 to read..domestic                                                                         
     violence in the physical presence or hearing of a child."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13 add after the word presence or hearing                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE GREEN objected for the purpose of discussion.  He                                                                
directed a question to Anne Carpeneti, Assistant Attorney General,                                                              
and asked whether, when talking about domestic violence in statute,                                                             
it is always considered an assault.  He further asked whether it is                                                             
ever a misdemeanor.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ANNE CARPENETI, Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division,                                                                  
Department of Law, responded that it is not always considered an                                                                
assault.  She affirmed that it could be a misdemeanor.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN expressed concern that they are elevating a                                                                
misdemeanor to a felony by someone hearing domestic violence in                                                                 
another room.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI clarified that it is an aggravating factor.  It                                                                   
applies to sentencing in felony cases and in those cases where                                                                  
presumptive sentencing applies.  They are not elevating a                                                                       
misdemeanor to a felony.  Instead, they are giving more latitude to                                                             
the court in sentencing a person in crimes where there has been a                                                               
conviction of a felony and a presumptive term applies.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN gave a hypothetical example where a parent                                                                 
feels that it is necessary to severely spank a child.  He asked:                                                                
If the child is younger than 16, could that child or a sibling                                                                  
bring that up as a domestic violence issue?                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI responded that a child could report the incident to                                                               
the police, who would have to look at the circumstances of the                                                                  
offense to see if a crime was committed.  She pointed out that                                                                  
generally parents are allowed to discipline their children, and                                                                 
that includes some corporal punishment.  Those lines are tough to                                                               
draw and tough to describe.  She clarified that HB 288 applies to                                                               
people who are being sentenced after they have already been                                                                     
convicted of felony offenses.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE GREEN withdrew his objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KOTT announced that without objection, the proposed                                                                    
amendment has been adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI wondered if there is a reason why they are                                                             
limiting it to members of the household as opposed to children who                                                              
might be at the scene.  Although Ms. Carpeneti deferred to the                                                                  
sponsor, Representative Murkowski asked for her input.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI pointed out the cycle of domestic violence where                                                                  
children see it growing up and think it is acceptable; therefore,                                                               
as adults they end up abusing people around them.  She explained                                                                
that the reason it probably does not apply to any child present is                                                              
because that same relationship does not exist, even though it would                                                             
be traumatic.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KOTT indicated that Ms. Carpeneti's response is one of the                                                             
reasons they had narrowed the bill in scope.  He explained that                                                                 
most of the research out there shows that the greatest degree of                                                                
trauma and emotional damage is done to the child whose parents were                                                             
involved in the domestic violence.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI wondered if less weight would be given as                                                              
an aggravating factor with regards to the age of the child and the                                                              
child's ability to understand what is going on.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI responded, "Yes."  She explained that the state would                                                             
have to prove factors of aggravation with clear and convincing                                                                  
evidence.  The judge is given more discretion to impose a sentence                                                              
and can take these matters into consideration.  She pointed out                                                                 
that an altercation may have caused great damage to the infant, who                                                             
may have been in the way of items being thrown around.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE GREEN made a motion to move HB 288, as amended, from                                                             
the House Judiciary Standing Committee with individual                                                                          
recommendations and the attached zero fiscal note.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES pointed out the need for a title change.  She                                                              
asked whether what the committee had done was sufficient to extend                                                              
that amendment to the title.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KOTT affirmed that, saying it would be conceptually                                                                    
ingrained in the title.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA thanked Representative Kott for introducing                                                             
HB 288, and thanked his staff for all the work they have done.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN KOTT noted that his research had revealed the effect of                                                                
domestic violence on the business community in the United States is                                                             
a loss of between $3 and $5 billion.  He announced that without                                                                 
objection, CSHB 288(JUD) was moved out the House Judiciary Standing                                                             
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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